I know many here will throw up when they see this...but I ran across it recently and it was in such fantastic shape, I couldn't pass it up. It was made 34 years ago by Yamaha for Soundesign. I am amazed by how good it sounds...god knows, it sounds better than my first Sony did...I called that thing "Miss Gritty Kitty". But, it has all the shortcomings of the early players. It doesn't like discs over an hour long...it will skip when bumped and like all early players...it's persnickety about whether it can read a CD-R or not. I also find it cool to see the disc spinning around in it!