PartsExpress: Dayton "AIRs" -- what do y'all think?

Discussion in 'The Doorway' started by mhardy6647, Feb 9, 2018.

  1. mhardy6647

    mhardy6647 Señor Member

    So, after much navel-gazing, I've convinced myself that I want to purchase and try a pair of the cheap Dayton two-way loudspeakers with generic "AMT" (air motion transformer -- a la Dr. Oskar Heil) tweeters.

    This is, of course, a completely selfless and eleemosynary move on my part -- my way of making a data-driven contribution to this thread... but I do have a question:

    Which model should I procure?

    The 4.5 incher or the 6.5 incher?



    On the other hand, if all y'all think that these are aiming too low for the intent of this subforum, please do say so!

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  2. opa1

    opa1 Moderator Staff Member

    I think they are on the money. My son uses the non-air b652. They work better than you would expect.
  3. mhardy6647

    mhardy6647 Señor Member

    I expect them to be not bad -- especially for the price!


    I think they'll be interesting to compare to multiple generations of low-cost/small two way loudspeakers.

    CSW Model Seventeen


    Wish I still had a pair of AR-18 loudspeakers. I really liked those, but passed them along to someone who actually needed something like them some years back.
  4. TubeHiFiNut

    TubeHiFiNut Administrator Staff Member

    Personally, I'd go for the 6.5" version.....

    But what do I know? ;)
  5. mhardy6647

    mhardy6647 Señor Member

    That was my thought, too -- but I wonder if that's 'cause I am an Amurrican.

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  6. Ernie

    Ernie Activated

    I'd go for the 6.5 inch. 87 dB vs 84 dB for the smaller one. I've heard the non-AMT version, and the mid-woofer is surprisingly good for a $60 pair of speakers.
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  7. mhardy6647

    mhardy6647 Señor Member

    The price is certainly right (either way, actually), so I think that's the plan.

    I figure they should easily be worth their modest cost in fun.

    1) evaluate as is with various kinds of music, various sources, various amplifiers -- avec and sans subwoofage.
    2) take a peek inside.
    3) maybe some gentle, pseudo-audiophile tweaking of said insides (depending upon what is found therein)?

    tonnes of fun to be had, methinks.

    sort of reminds me of this golden olde from another time's forgotten space:

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  8. TubeHiFiNut

    TubeHiFiNut Administrator Staff Member

    That's exactly what I say when I go down this path..... :)
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  9. mhardy6647

    mhardy6647 Señor Member

    I can't remember the last time I bought new speakers... it was probably an on-sale pair of CSW Model Sixes I bought for my daughter when she matriculated into college (2002) :)

    To quote Ricky Ricardo:
    * "The die is cast" :o

    I just ordered a pair of the 6.5 inch AIR morph :) Free standard shipping (had to spend a hunnert bucks in toto; that wasn't difficult).

    Further details as events warrant.

    I'm actually excited about this!
  10. marantzfan

    marantzfan Administrator Staff Member

    In curious to hear how you like em. I’m with you in thubkI by they won’t sound bad and might be surprisingly decent.
  11. Celt

    Celt Peanut Head

    They also offer the 6.5 AIR version in a floorstander with two woofs.
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  12. TubeHiFiNut

    TubeHiFiNut Administrator Staff Member

    Good catch @Celt :)

    Looks impressive.

    Floorstanding tower with 2 x 6 inch woofers plus the AMT tweeter for $125 each.

    88db efficient - should be OK with the majority of the Doorway amps we've been discussing.
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  13. mhardy6647

    mhardy6647 Señor Member

    That strikes me as too much -- from a configuration and from a price standpoint.
    I am nothing if not parsimonious (by which I mean cheap).
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  14. TubeHiFiNut

    TubeHiFiNut Administrator Staff Member

    An official "Hi Fi Haven Cheapskate"? ;) ;)

    The bookshelf speaker would fit better in a small apartment or dorm. We'll go with whichever Dayton you choose. :)
  15. John Frum

    John Frum Junior Member

    I never got the fuss about the original B652, TBH. Much like the speakers packaged in inexpensive shelf systems - and about the cheapest "real" speakers you can buy. And that's a wonderful thing for 95% of the population.

    But I didn't like the originals, I didn't like them when the sourcing changed, and I didn't like the derivatives. This is the sort of thing that I listened to in happy ignorance many years ago.

    I briefly listened to the AIR speakers, but I wouldn't say critically. Struck me as a gimmick - the cheapest possible AMTs grafted onto flimsy POS speakers in place of the mylar dome that really more befits the rest of it.
  16. mhardy6647

    mhardy6647 Señor Member

    So -- I ordered a pair of the 6.5 inch AIRs, a FiiO closeout lossless audio (not high-rez) player, and enough (by the foot) Mogami cable to push the total over $100 -- so as to have free shipping.

    They are en route (we'll see if they find their way here to the edge of civilization).

    Fiddy dollas the pair for the speakers... it will be interesting to see what they're like (and maybe what their potential could be).

    I probably shoulda boughta low-cost "Class D" amp with onboard DAC to try with them, but... maybe later...

    Further details as events warrant.
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  17. TubeHiFiNut

    TubeHiFiNut Administrator Staff Member

    My new $70 TPA-3250 amp should be here soon.

    We should get my amp and your speakers together and see if they can dance. ;)
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  18. opa1

    opa1 Moderator Staff Member

    The ACA might work well with them.
  19. TubeHiFiNut

    TubeHiFiNut Administrator Staff Member

    Got home and what should be waiting for me? The TPA-3250 amp! :)

    It's a cute little amp. I'm really looking forward to hooking it up. :)
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  20. mhardy6647

    mhardy6647 Señor Member

    I am guessing that the low-ish sensitivity will make them less than ideal for the ACA -- but, since there is an ACA here (albeit a slightly hot-rodded variant thereof), it is a testable hypothesis.

    For some reason, I am fixated on trying them on the quasi-complementary HH Scott LK-60 that lives here. I have this weird, nonlinear affection for that amplifier :)

    [​IMG]004 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
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